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Friday, October 26

Theological Double-speak

Whoa.... Check this out.

Part 1

Part 2



  • I've suspected that Pagitt was something of a theological wingnut, and to be honest, this kinda seals the deal in my mind.

    But to be more honest, I could only stand to listen to about 3 minutes of this. Not because of the baloney that Pagitt was saying, but because Friel was making Ken Silva look like Brian McLaren.

    My respect for WotM has taken a gargantuan hit.

    By Anonymous Brendt, at 4:33 PM, October 31, 2007  

  • An odd and rather unfortunate interview... It seems to polarize the two men onto extreme sides without searching for common ground between them. This happens all the time in the political realm and I wish it wouldn't happen in the church so much. Like or not, the so-called "emerging church" is here and will have a major effect on American theology for years to come, so it seems that a better approach would have been oriented more towards reconciling and understanding rather than nasty polemics.

    Anyway, I think I would like to have heard more from Pagitt about what it means to be "at work in the world." While not fond of the evasive speech that has come to define the e.c. movement, I really think their missional life has a lot to offer and inspire.

    The "at work in world" philosophy of ministry and life is a prophetic call to many American Christians to stop hibernating in the cave of evangelical subculture. I just wish that e.c. leaders were more plain-spoken. I think the idea is to be more "user-friendly," but one must be careful not to engage in deception. From experience, I know that many emerging churches are actually still very conservative in doctrine... they just won't admit it outright.

    So, they are actually less an enemy to traditionalists than is currently perceived. Pagitt's soteriology is not really representative of the emerging church movement, but he sure does make a good whipping boy.

    By Blogger Mary, at 1:40 PM, November 10, 2007  

  • Mary,

    Great comment... So much so that I'm going to pull it up to the main page in Tuesday's post.

    I understand that "many emerging churches are actually still very conservative in doctrine", but I think the issue goes a bit deeper than that.

    Hope you'll come back and offer a reflection or two on that one.

    By Blogger HeavyDluxe, at 8:09 PM, November 10, 2007  

  • Sure thing. I'll be back (soon, provided a certain two-year-old goes without a crisis for long enough to write something...)

    By Blogger Mary, at 9:12 PM, November 10, 2007  

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